Welcome And What You'll Learn

SPEAKER_01 0:17

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Jacquelyn Jackson 0:46

Okay, we want to welcome everyone to our Giving Power to the Business Owner series. And I'm your host, Jaclyn Jackson with TDJ Equity Funding here in Frisco, Texas. So here at the GPBO, we plan to have our guests to come on that can give power to our business owners as well as to our real estate investors. So today we have a guest, an exceptional gentleman that's come to bring us some of his knowledge that can do just that. His name is Michael Anderson. And Michael Anderson is from Dallas, Texas. Michael has he's Michael left a six-figure Fortune 50 career to be a freedom through real estate investing. And now he helps others do the same through his Escape Velocity framework. In this session, he's going to share practical strategies for investors who want to scale, build systems, and create sustainable momentum in their business. Whether you are new to the real estate or you already have growing your portfolio, this conversation will give you insight into how to move from motivation to execution. Welcome, Michael, to our show.

SPEAKER_02 2:01

Thank you for having me, Jackie. Thank you.

Why He Calls It Impact

Jacquelyn Jackson 2:03

And we are so glad that you are here. So let's get it started with first your name, the title you have, which is, and we love it, which is Real Estate Investment Impact Architect. Can you please explain why that's the title you go by?

SPEAKER_02 2:20

Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. So real estate investment is what got me out of the cycle of nine to five uh into my you know financial freedom. Now, the reason that I got impact architect is because we live in a society of mentors that that speak about mentality and so forth. For me, it's about impact. What do you have that can create impact in somebody's business that can in turn create the impact that they're looking for in their life? Um, and behind that is always action, which is why I put the architect behind that, is because no matter what you have, you always have to put it into action. So um, with me going into real estate, with me uh being able to acquire the things that I've acquired in the time that I've done it, uh, I feel that my experience and what I've done can be an impact to those uh who are looking to do the same.

Jacquelyn Jackson 3:16

Okay, and I think that's wonderful. So that's why you actually that and you are doing a lot of impact. You are helping a lot of people to see how to actually grow, especially in this real estate game. So when you describe yourself as helping high-level individuals get paid, okay, through real estate, what's it that what does that practically look like today in your business model on typically you're on your client uh profiles?

Escape Velocity Framework At High Level

SPEAKER_02 3:40

Yeah, so it's it's also important to understand that escape velocity is not specifically real estate, but in terms of real estate, when we're helping um high and high-level individuals get paid through real estate, is a partner company that we have, also called Let's Get Paid, which I'll give you the information for. And that is teaching investors every part of real estate investing when it comes from uh a point of single family. Um, as we know, there are so many entry points into real estate investing. We have wholesaling, you have your fix and flip, you have your buy and hold, and so forth. But rarely do you have a program that shows you everything from start to finish. And we pride ourselves on showing people that because we increase your profit strategies. So no matter what you decide to do, no matter how you decide to enter into real estate investment, we want to make sure that you get paid.

Jacquelyn Jackson 4:41

Great. So can you walk us through the escape velocity framework at the high level and specifically how does it apply to real estate investors who want to scale a portfolio or for those who want to transition from out of that W-2 income?

SPEAKER_02 4:58

Absolutely. So escape velocity is really battling the middle ground, right? Um, we all make that statement, we want to be this or we want to do this or do that, but it's about identifying where we are once we make that statement, right? So if I say, so in terms of real estate investors, we want to be a real estate investor. Whoever's out there listening, you say, you know, I want to be a real estate investor, and I want to be a high-level real estate investor. The biggest thing with the escape velocity framework is identifying where you are right now. Where you are right now based on where it is that you want to be. Now, let's truly identify where we want to be. And then after that, let's identify what's holding us back, what's keeping us from doing that. And then once we do that, we're able to reverse engineer a process and actually create a system that we can go step by step so we can get to exactly where it is that we want to go. That way we're not feeding off of a spark of motivation, right? Which I believe in motivation, but I don't believe that motivation is sustainable. Okay. What we want to do is we want to create a thrust, right? That's gonna actually put us into motion by following certain steps that's gonna create the momentum to build the success that we want to build in real estate investing or whatever business that may be for you.

Jacquelyn Jackson 6:21

Okay, great. So, like if one of um TDJ equity listeners, insider listeners, is active in real estate as an investor right now, what are the three concrete outcomes or shift could they expect by applying your framework in 90 days?

What Changes In 90 Days

SPEAKER_02 6:38

Absolutely. So, for one, you're gonna identify where you're at, like we spoke before. Two, we're gonna see what's keeping you from doing that. Three, most importantly, what we're gonna do is we're gonna create a process that you can consistently follow, right? And the reason I say consistently because sometimes we have to create something that's concrete so that we're not worried about how we feel, right, in order to get it done. Because we understand whoever's a real estate investor, there are times that you wake up in the morning and you may not feel like doing it. Right. Right. But if we're going towards a certain goal, we understand that there are things that have to get done, bottom line. So what process can we put in place to make sure those things get done? So after 90 days, and we know how real estate is, the market is forever changing, right? So after 90 days, you're gonna know exactly where you're at to make sure you're on the trajectory route that you plan to be on, or if you need to recalibrate. But at that point in time, we'll have growth, we'll know exactly where we stand from where we were to where it is that we know we want to go.

Jacquelyn Jackson 7:40

Okay, so something that we know that a lot of investors often get this wrong. How does your framework address the realities of leverage funding structures and using other people's money?

SPEAKER_02 7:54

So, in the terms of real estate, we're kind of gonna go off of go off of escape velocity and go directly into our real estate program, let's get paid. Okay, um, how we structure that is uh when it comes to OPM, I'm sure everybody has has has heard of that, is we do it through subject two, creative financing, um, utilizing other people's loans, right, in order to give us the leverage that we need in buying power. Um, I think the misconception in real estate is that we all have to come in with a lot of money. Right. Um and I would like to debunk that. It's more we need to come in with the knowledge, right, that keeps us from having to use a lot of money. And that's creative financing. And um, I think that's the biggest thing about let's get paid uh when it comes to real estate investing, is that we teach you how to go and do that creative financing, right? Without having to use your credit and getting the leverage of utilizing other people's money as in being able to utilize their loan. That way it maximizes your buying power uh in the market as an investor.

Jacquelyn Jackson 9:05

Exactly. And one thing we see as loan brokers, which I love what you do, you you help them to see the reality of things. I've seen sometimes we have clients come in uh on real estate and they're new, they're new, and they're stunned to realize that soft cost is something that the lender's not gonna pay for, which is you getting it together, the architect plans and getting the survey, getting all that. And they really expect it's gonna be paid, nothing's gonna pay 100%. So it's great to have you where they can come to and you can bring them into reality. Listen, this is how this works. So that's why we think what you guys are doing is so important. So let me ask you this what stage of an investor, uh, what stage of investors get the most benefit from your approach?

Creative Financing And Other People’s Loans

SPEAKER_02 9:49

I'd say every stage. I I think more so now the best the investor that's going to get the most benefit from us is the investor that is looking to invest in single family. As we know, there's multifamily, there's commercial, and all that. Now I wouldn't steer you down a way that I haven't navigated, right? Right. But when it comes to single family, whether you're a new investor in single family or whether you're a seasoned investor in single family and you're looking at a way to scale or do more, we can benefit you. Um, because we have done this at scale. We have helped investors that have done it at scale as well, um, by teaching them because you you get some single family investors that only navigate one aspect of the single family real estate investing as um process. They're they're they're able to come to us, work with us, and learn the different avenues and aspects of being in single family uh real estate investing, which then again we threw around the word leverage, which gives them the leverage when it comes to how they structure their profit strategies. So whether you're new and you're just looking into getting real estate investing, or whether you're seasoned and you're looking to add to the knowledge so you can add to your portfolio or add to your strategies of profit, we're the right stop for you.

Jacquelyn Jackson 11:13

Okay, so our audience, and you and I have talked on this. Um, our audience hear a lot of mindset talk. We talk about it all the time. What is uniquely different about how you blend mindset, personal development, and concrete investing strategies so it doesn't feel like fluff, right?

SPEAKER_02 11:32

So the thing about mindset, mindset is important, right? Um, you have to have the right mindset to do anything worthwhile in life. But the thing about it is if you're here already, you probably already developed that mindset. So we don't want to keep punching something down, you know, on your face that you already know. Right. So for us, it's about action. Okay, you have the mindset that's good, you're here, you're wanting to learn. Okay, we're about action and structure and process, right? Because again, you can have all the mindset in the world, that's just a spark. We want to create a thrust. So we have structures that show you how to do it, right? By holding your hand through each step of the process so you can actually learn the action part of it, not just having the mindset. Um, and I think that's big in any business, but especially real estate investing, because we have a lot of quote-unquote real estate investors, right? Um, we don't want you to just say that, we want you to be able to show that, right? And the only way that you can show that is through your actions. So we develop a process and a structure that you're able to follow by us holding your hand that gets you from talking and mindset to action and results.

Jacquelyn Jackson 12:51

Exactly. That's great. So let me ask you this: can you share like a brief story of a of a real estate investor you work with, uh, where they started, what parts of your framework you implemented, and then you know, something that was measurable business portfolio results that they achieved.

SPEAKER_02 13:09

Right. So I I've got one. Um, he's actually a really good friend of mine now as well. I'll just put his first name out there, Chris. Now, Chris, when he started with the program, and mind you, Chris started well before the framework of Escape Velocity, but he's we were using those, I'll say we were using those um those um the structures of it to work with them. But he was in the in the process and the structure of let's get paid. And Chris had no real estate back background. Chris was in collections, um, he did work for a mortgage company, um, but in terms of actual real estate investing, no education. He came in, he was able to learn the process, he was able to implement things from that process, and in doing so, you automatically learn about the off-market real estate investing game. And then it got to a point to where Chris, where I says, it's that decision point, right? We get that point, okay. This is what we've done in real estate, this is where we're still are. We're trying to leap off of this planet of this nine to five world into this full-time real estate investor, and we've done enough to where we can actually make that decision. Um, so Chris was actually able to make that leap and leave his full-time job um and be a full-time real estate investor. And I think to date, he's done over 25, close to 30 deals. Um, and yeah, as of right now, yeah, Chris is a full-time real estate investor. He's still out there in acquisitions, bringing in deals, um, and and flipping houses.

Jacquelyn Jackson 14:43

Great. It's just great just to have you guys, someone like you all as a partner, which we definitely want our listeners to know. We want them to reach out to you. We will have his information. I want to put this in now, uh, on our referral page. And at the end, he's gonna tell you how to get in touch with them now as well. Okay, so y'all can reach out to him. So let's do like a deep dive type questions, okay? When an investor is already doing consistent deal flow, what specific hidden drag do you typically diagnose first?

Mindset Versus Action And Process

SPEAKER_02 15:14

Um, I think the big one is profit, right? Um and it's because, and the reason I say this is because we know the market changes. Right. So sometimes they're an investor that can come in, they can be a seasoned investor, they've been doing this for a while, they've been following a very specific strategy, and then the market changes. And that market affects the cash flow, right? We don't do this just to do it, we do it to make money. Right. Um, so again, that's where our recalibration comes in in a forever-changing market, in a forever changing industry, right? So, my first thing would be where where are those margins and what can we do to make sure that we're still hitting the same margins that we were when we were getting the success that we were getting? Right? Is that tweaking our buy box? Um, is that tweaking how we acquire properties? Is that tweaking what type of properties we acquire or we're marketing to? Um, so I'll go into that. Uh and then marketing as well. What's the volume of our marketing? When things get slow, are we still saying this staying the same pace? Or are we picking up our marketing? Are we reaching more people than we once were to get to be able to cover the amount of profits that we're that we're expecting or that we're wanting? Uh, I think sometimes we go the same pace and that deal flow starts to drop and we don't realize that we have to pick the efforts up as well. And that can take a level up from the whole uh organization, as in even if it's just yourself or if you have a group of investors that you're working with, and whatever role you guys play, you guys have to you guys have to turn it up.

Jacquelyn Jackson 16:56

Exactly. And so and I love the part that, and I think a lot of investors, even some seasons, because we've noticed them, the market changed and they don't know what to do. You know, that's what we realized. They thought they knew what to do. And because you see the results of what happened to their portfolio, and that's what I like to say, we've you and I talked about it, that you give them in the framework a how to read that market because it's not gonna be what you used to all the time when it changed what you do. And that's what I think is really great about what you all have. Now, another question because you and I talked about it, most frameworks sound great at the whiteboard. We talked about that, but let's break down between underwriting and assets management, where you have seen your framework probably fail in a field for an investor. But what did you change? What process matrix or mindset did you do to fix that?

SPEAKER_02 17:45

Um, really, that that comes from the buy box.

unknown 17:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:49

Um, if because in real estate, and you've probably heard this before, the money is made in the buy. The money is made in the buy. So a lot of times when we see a drop-off in the cash flow, it's because we didn't buy right. Now, the unfortunate time, the unfortunate part of this sometimes is we have to live and learn. So sometimes it takes us experiencing that failure to understand that okay, now it's time to recalibrate. We can't buy the way we once did. Um, whether that's put market discounts on or whatever the case we may be doing, we have to put ourselves in a position to where we're always buying right.

Jacquelyn Jackson 18:27

Right.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

So that would be the biggest thing.

Chris’s Story From Job To Deals

Jacquelyn Jackson 18:30

Yeah, yeah, to always buy right. And I think that's that's great. And that's where you guys can come in and kind of help people to understand how to do that. What actual facts, because you and I talked about that, not like, oh, I got a good feeling on this one. You said no good.

SPEAKER_02 18:44

No, you you do not want to buy real estate off feeling. That's how you go broke.

Jacquelyn Jackson 18:51

So on the most like sophisticated operators already have a master mindset. We talked on this too. Coaches, CRMs, they already have all this stuff. What are the first two or three things you ask them to stop doing or tracking because it's actually capping their portfolio escape velocity?

SPEAKER_02 19:11

Um, now let's let's ask that again. I'm I'm I want to come up with the best answer for that. Let's okay.

Jacquelyn Jackson 19:17

So you know you deal with it, some of them that already know, they already know everything. They just come into you see what you can do, but you notice there are like you you mentioned what are the first two or three things you asked them to stop doing or tracking because they're actually capping their portfolio off.

SPEAKER_02 19:36

Let's see, from the an escape velocity framework. Um what are they tracking? What would I tell them to stop tracking? If they're coming to me, it's because they want more. It's because they want more. Um so I would stop tracking the past and what we've done in the past and figure out where we are right now. Um because what you've done back then sometimes doesn't translate to what needs to be done right now.

Jacquelyn Jackson 20:06

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 20:07

So that goes back to identifying where we are and where it is that we want to go or want to be. And you can't take the past with you when you do that. Nobody cares about what you've done, they only care about what you're doing. So if what you're doing is not getting the results that you want, I need you to stop tracking the past. And then I need you to recalibrate based on where we are in the present and then see where it is that we want to be in the future so we can reverse engineer that to make sure that we are actually navigating the correct trajectory route that's going to get us there. Um, so that you got to be open, you have to put your pride aside. We have to put our ego aside. We know there's a lot of ego in real estate investing. It is. If you want to grow, you've got to put that aside. Okay. I always say, but remain a student of the game. Even myself, I'm always a student. Um, and that's what allows us to continue to grow. I never think I know everything because as we know, the market will humble you really quick. Quickly.

Jacquelyn Jackson 21:10

Right? Quickly.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

Will humble you really quick. So don't think that you know it all based on some things that you've done because there's a lot of people that made a lot of money in 2008, right? And the market crashed. There's a lot of people that lost money. Well, this is not that. So you can't base something off of something that you did a long time ago and just know that it's gonna work right now. And I come across a lot of that, and I think we see a lot of that in the real estate investing education uh realm, is that we have a lot of people teaching based on things that they've done years ago.

Jacquelyn Jackson 21:44

Right, I agree, right?

SPEAKER_02 21:46

And then we have a lot of people learning based on people that are teaching off stuff that they've learned years ago, and they're trying to implement that in today's market, and they grow frustrated, exactly swindled, and then they want to throw their Hands up and it doesn't work. No, it's not that it doesn't work, it's just what you're doing doesn't work. Um, and that's what we pride ourselves on, is because we're able to show you what we're doing real time, what's happening right now, what adjustments need to be made now, but you have to be open and receiving that so you can implement that in your real estate business to uh aid you into your success.

Profit Margins Marketing And Market Shifts

Jacquelyn Jackson 22:23

Right. So we have to they have to come to get ready for new skills. And I'm saying it, we when I say that, I'm talking about people that have been doing it for a while and they've been seasoned and have portfolios, they don't realize how much stuff changed from what you have. We know what you had last year, but this year's a whole different year. So that's what I love about you guys because you said, you know, like I said, you you're always learning and you're paying attention to the changes in the market because you know how you thought before, and you say things just change, and I have to flow with it to see what's going on. And I love that part. You don't stick to last year teaching, you're always updating your framework, you're always changing that. And and we need someone that that can help us do that and change with the time. So let me ask you this. So, how does the framework help investors make different decisions at the inflection point of between do another value-added deal and recycle equity?

SPEAKER_02 23:19

Um, is it working? I think it's a simple question based on what we're doing. Is it working? If it's working, okay, continue to do what you're doing. If it's not working, okay, we need to recalibrate.

Jacquelyn Jackson 23:30

So are you saying don't move with the crowd? Is that what you're telling me?

SPEAKER_02 23:34

If the if I wouldn't say move with the crowd, um, I wouldn't say don't move with the crowd. If what you're doing, if what you're doing is working, right, and it's getting you to your your desired point, stick with it. If it's not, recalibrate and see where it is that we need, what what do we need to change, where at do we need to change, and then implement.

Jacquelyn Jackson 24:02

Right, right. That makes sense, a lot of sense. All right, so getting trying to end some things down. If you could sit inside an investor's weekly operating rhythm, how they do what they do, a team meeting, let's say they're a lender's call, what very specific lending indicators would you tell them about to hit in order for them to show up in their P and L's and their balance sheets? What do they need to look at doing? How should they structure that to address that in real time?

SPEAKER_02 24:32

From lend from a lender perspective, yes, sir. So the thing with lenders, and this is where I'm gonna be completely transparent, we don't deal with too many lenders, is because we have mastered the art of creative finance. Um, so our lender coordination is more dealing with lenders of homeowners that are sellers that we're buying from. So I would never steer you the wrong way or or claim to have a level of expertise that I don't have. So when it comes to dealing with outside lenders, such as you know, uh hard money lenders or whatever the case may be, we don't do too much dealing with that. Um our dealing, like I said, is is mastering the art of creative finance and utilizing other people's loans. So the lenders that we're dealing with are the sellers' lenders.

Jacquelyn Jackson 25:23

And see, we want to be fair because we are those type of lenders. But what you're saying, I see it a lot with the real estate portfolio and even with mine, is that you're right, you can't have a lender on everything you do. At some point in time, you got to let that go. That's what I think is great about your program. You showing, hey, this is how we do it without lenders, you know, and because I don't think a lot of people understand how that works, but more importantly, I don't think people understand how that changes over time. To have a company like yours, that is what you do, you see the changes coming before they hit. Therefore, you can kind of guide your group that you have that you're training now, that you've been very successful at, uh, of where they need to go and where they need to pivot. And I think that is really, really good in what you have. So, what your experience and what you know, what I want you to give something before you leave. What kind of advice you can give? A I want a starting real estate investor, okay. What advice you can give them, and what advice would you give to a seasoned investor right now? For is before we end the show. What would be your advice to them?

Buying Right Recalibration And Ego

SPEAKER_02 26:31

Okay, for the starting real estate investors, uh the biggest thing and was most important is I want you to specify where it is or what it is that you want to do in real estate in terms of being an investor. Being in a real estate, being a real estate investor is such a broad statement, right? So specify what you want to do in real estate, okay? And then again, identify where you're at. And then you need to see what needs to be done to get you where you want to be. Okay. Okay. As a seasoned real estate investor, ask yourself the question, are you where you want to be? A lot of times what happens is, and I see this a lot in all types of industries, but especially real estate, is for a seasoned real estate investor, we get to a certain point to where we've had a certain amount of success, right? And we want to continue to orbit that success. Now, what happens is we still feel inside that we want more.

Jacquelyn Jackson 27:38

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 27:39

And we want to expand, but then we get hit with the fear because we've seen market shifts, right? We may have experienced losing money on deals, right? Or we may know other people that have done other things and it keeps us stuck, right? So we get to orbiting this realm of success that we've reached, but we still have that inner desire to seek more and scale our portfolio. So what I'd say to them is don't be afraid, just identify a process that is sustainable that you can navigate to get you to the level of scale that you desire. Okay. It's gonna take, and I want you to remember I want you to remember the thrust that you had to create to propel yourself into the level of success that you're at now. Remember that. Remember what needed to be done then, okay, in terms of the energy that you had to put forth. I want you to put that same level of energy towards doing what needs to be done now to scale you to the next level that you desire to be scaled to. Right. A lot of times you are, and especially for my seasoned real estate investors, a lot of times you already have the knowledge, you have the information, you have the experience, but you're holding yourself back.

unknown 29:00

Right.

Jacquelyn Jackson 29:01

That's on our that's for the start. So, what about our seasoned ones?

SPEAKER_02 29:04

Yeah, definitely. So the last one was for our seasoned ones.

Jacquelyn Jackson 29:07

Okay, for them to actually okay, gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Yeah, because because they they've gotten that level of success.

Jacquelyn Jackson 29:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

Right? And if there's a seasoned investor that's looking at this, it's because they're wanting to scale, they're wanting to do more. You see what I'm saying? So and and and it's easy to stay put because you're like, okay, this works, and this has been working. I'm afraid to kind of move from this because what if it doesn't work the same over there as it does here? Right? But there's a reason that you're looking for for more. You know that you're you know that you have more inside, and you know that you want to scale. So don't be afraid of it. Just find a system that allows you to create that momentum to put you into where it is you want to be in terms of scalability. So if you want to scale your business, scale your business. Just remember the process that it started that you used to scale it the first time, and whatever energy it took for you to do that, understand that it's gonna take the exact same amount of energy, if not a little bit more, to propel you to the next level. Okay, but don't allow it to keep you stuck and orbiting around that level of success that you've already reached. Go ahead and reach that next level, scale up, it's possible.

Advice For New And Seasoned Investors

Jacquelyn Jackson 30:16

And that's why we wanted to have you guys on the show, to have you on the show, because people are trying to scale up, but they don't have the direction. You know, they figure they just bought. I actually had a client that had a portfolio with out of Arkansas, 27 homes. He was cash poor, 27 properties, cash poor, didn't know how to get out of that and how to run and how to do all that. So I saw then I'm like, wow, you you have all of this, and you stuck because he thought, Oh, I'm just gonna scale up for apparently his scale up was just buy everything, which he had no help. So I think, and I just want to reiterate how important it is because when they come to us, it makes it hard for us to even help, even though I'm a lender, it's difficult for us to help you when you're like that. So, you all to get in contact with Michael, he has to resource. Someone gave me a note, the one to say, Do you do complimentary uh discovery calls where they can just call you? Is it a fee to call you to talk to you to start off for niche?

SPEAKER_02 31:19

No, give us if it's real estate. I want you to book a call with us at let'sgetpaid.com.

Jacquelyn Jackson 31:26

Okay, let's getpaid.com.

SPEAKER_02 31:28

Yep, let's get paid.com. Um, book a call, register for absolutely free. Big uh book a call. One of us will reach out to you and we will understand what your real estate goals are, and we'll have a conversation and direct you from there. But yeah, that's absolutely free.

Jacquelyn Jackson 31:45

Okay, so put that in because yeah, somebody slipped me a note to ask you, was that okay that you have something like that? Absolutely. Let's getpaid.com. So you all heard that. So um, we're gonna wrap everything up today. Our show for the day. We want to thank our guest Michael uh for being here, and we recommend that you guys reach out to him. Anything, do all things real estate, because like I said, he got a specific, but guys, he knows I've spoken to him, he knows so much. Just call him to at least be your starter, okay? What you want to do, and if you would now I know you gave us um let's get paid.com, but could you tell us all how can they get in touch with you? What's the best way to do that?

SPEAKER_02 32:22

So if you want to reach directly out to me, whether you're in real estate, whether you've already scaled and you want to pick Michael's brain, right? In terms of the escape velocity framework, you can reach me uh at michaelanderson.com. And that's Michael with the Y. So M Y C H A E Landerson.com. Um register. Um, I will reach out to you personally. Uh, we can have a conversation, uh, or you can reach me at on LinkedIn as well, um, at Michaelanderson, and we can have a discussion from there. So actually.

Jacquelyn Jackson 32:55

Okay, spell your name again because it is spelled a little different.

Free Calls And How To Connect

SPEAKER_02 32:58

Yeah, it's a little different. So it's Michael with a Y. So instead of M-I, it's M-Y-C-H-A-E-L, last name Anderson. A-N-D-E-R-S-O-N. So you can find me there on LinkedIn. Um, and then the website is michaelanderson.com.

Jacquelyn Jackson 33:15

Which I think is neat and wonderful. Okay, well, again, I want to thank you so much for taking time out today. I know you are busy and you squeezed us in, and we thank you, thank you, thank you so much. And so we want to thank all of our guests as well, um, and all our visitors, because we had people here that was listening to you as well, uh, that follow us. He will be on our referral page, guys. So reach out to him. Is there anything you want to say before we close out, Michael?

SPEAKER_02 33:42

No, only thing I will say is the only way out is up. So, guys, get to work. You're not stuck.

Jacquelyn Jackson 33:48

Okay, sounds like a winner. Well, thank all of you all. You have a great day, and you all take care. Thank you.

Final Line And Show Outro

SPEAKER_01 33:56

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