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Speaker 0:12

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Meet Dr Pat And Her Work

Jacquelyn Jackson 0:46

Okay, we want to welcome everybody to our Given Power to the Business Owner series. Today we're talking to, we're talking with Sustained Performance with Dr. Pat, the expert who helps high achievement leaders unlock energy, clarity, and leadership without burnout. So, Dr. Pat, the first thing we want to do is thank you so much for being here today. You're welcome. I love being here.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 1:11

This is going to be a lot of fun.

Jacquelyn Jackson 1:13

Oh, yes, it definitely will. So, what we want to do, let's start off with this. If you don't mind, let our audience uh know a little bit more about you and what you actually do.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 1:24

Well, I'm a performance optimization strategist and functional medicine expert and lifestyle strategist. And I'm also an international best-selling author. Um, for more than three decades, I've helped executives and high performers, whether they be elite athletes, you know, or someone in the boardroom, um, especially women, um, elevate, you know, to their optimizing status of their health, their energy, and their mindset. And rather than starting from scratch, I work with people who already have success and emotion, and I help them sustain what they already have achieved, and I help them reach their next levels that is faster, safer, and with uh simpler solutions.

Jacquelyn Jackson 2:06

All right. And that's something we need to understand. So you're saying whether you're an athlete or a business owner, your service that you offer is something we definitely can use and add to our uh lenders for what we do. Well, I think that's wonderful, and that's why we wanted you to be on here as well, too. So we have a lot of us as business owners, we're upset, we are really obsessed with uh structure, systems, strategy. You know, we're all about that. So, what we want to know from you, how do you typically work with higher achieving business owners and executives?

The 360 Method Explained

Dr. Pat Boulogne 2:39

Well, I partner specifically with high-performing executives and business owners with a propriety method that I have called the 360 method. Basically, it's for sustaining um success and health. Um, and also elevating. Um, I partner by, you know, um look looking at people's common issues. They come to me with uh energy depletion, you know, decision fatigue. They come with uh sleep disorders or disruption, they're running on empty. Um, and you know, and I help them reach their upper limits so that they don't keep on repetitiously keep on hitting the wall and falling down again and keep on repeating that process over and over again and wondering what happened, why didn't I get ahead of myself? You know, and I want to make sure that some I mentioned choose because a lot of times when we do that, we are fragmented. We don't have, you know, all all the glue isn't there. It's like putting, you know, when you break a porcelain cup, it's like putting that porcelain cup back together again. You can always see those fine lines unless you have it done by a professional. But it's the important part of that is to know, like, you know, those pieces can come back together and you can be even better, you know, with a little consistency and with figuring out what the like where's the glitch, fix the glitch, and keep moving forward.

Jacquelyn Jackson 3:55

So basically, like what you're saying, and and I know from being a loan broker, that's being an entrepreneur as well. And I work with a lot of entrepreneurs, we really don't think about what you would you're actually saying. We need to add, we don't even think about adding that part of what we do every day.

What Burnout Looks Like Daily

Jacquelyn Jackson 4:12

So when we have this burnout, let's say this what does sustain excellence with without burnout look like in practices for like busy, busy entrepreneurs? What does that even look like to not have a burnout?

Dr. Pat Boulogne 4:26

Well, it's having sustained energy. It's just like, you know, there's a routine that I do every day, and I do it because I'm not burnt out, you know. But I was burnt out at one point in time. And it took me a long time to like get my you know, get my right foot with the right foot and the left foot with the left foot. It was just, it was mentally bogging. I had brain fog, I had a lot of things going on. And so what you know, it's it's taking those things and putting them in a better place, having a better routine, having better habits, eating better, thinking better, moving better, feeling better, so that you can, you know, function on the drop of a dime. You know, a lot of times, sometimes, you know, we have emergencies happen, and the reason why people get injured is because they can't respond immediately. There is always a hesitation. That's what they say about people, and they're like sleep deprived and they're trying to drive. You know, it's just like you see something happen and your reaction time is slower. So a lot of times it exposes you to physical harm.

Jacquelyn Jackson 5:26

So basically, which is really good, that's a question I was gonna ask you off the cuff here is that um, how do we know as business owners or entrepreneurs, especially high achievement, that we are actually going through burnout?

Burnout Signs In The Office

Jacquelyn Jackson 5:39

How we what's the size of things?

Dr. Pat Boulogne 5:41

You know, you're always tired, you're irritable. Um, there's things like um that you would know you're going through burnout, is that you know, you you're like you're for more forgetful. Um you're not digesting your food, you know. So for instance, if you always had a good digestive system, all of a sudden you're constipated or you have diarrhea, something like that. You know, or when you eat things, you're you get bloated, you know, and then you're exhausted. So it's you know, when you think about, you know, even doing something simple, you know, like you know, I gotta go to the grocery store and go, I'll do it tomorrow. You know, and then and so it's like you know, you start to stop doing those self-care type things for yourself, you know, putting your makeup on, you know, like what clothes to wear, like like looking your best, you know, and maybe like staying in your pajamas one too many days, you know, and that kind of thing. Right and that and and also your performance fails, you know. So you start, you know, um you're you're when you know you have deadlines to meet, instead of just like getting them done and moving on to your next thing, you know, you're not you're stuck, you know, and you're in the mud.

Jacquelyn Jackson 6:45

Okay. So that's how so how it looks like at the officer at work is where you're saying that we get stuck, but we also get forgiveful, right? Um and I think well, let me say that because I've actually gone through this and had to go through that's why I wanted you on here because I've already had to go through this. And one thing I found out I did, and you probably can make your little comment on it, is that I found out I was misfoiling everything. I mean, simple stuff that I would do every day. I'm opening up a file and D is in file F and Elf is in file H, and I'm like, what is going on? So that's a type of burnout, right? That we would see in the office pretty much. And that's what I said. I think I can figure out if I'm sleepy, if I'm this, but in the office is where in the business, I don't think we recognize this as good.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 7:33

Well, sometimes we're on autopilot, you know, and so you know, um, I had and and some people are just, you know, they're um, I would say in chiropractic, we'd say they're switched, like they're like they don't, um, when they're looking at a J, they really see a D. You know, and um, but you know, and and so that they just like their cognition is off, you know, simple like understanding simple things to do, you're saying, could you explain it to me one more time? You know, and you're going, and the and then when you're being explained it one more time, you know, notes are being taken because they're thinking like, okay, are you not feeling well? Do you have, you know, are you, you know, do you have the flu? Maybe you should be home, you know, instead of being at work because you know, you're you know, you're tired, you didn't sleep well. Sleep was a huge issue.

Jacquelyn Jackson 8:22

Um, you know, and so all this plays a part of being burnout. Is that because it sounds like it's medical, but it's burnout.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 8:28

But it's you know, but it's for sure, because when you're when you're burnt out, you you know, it's uh you're you have a lot of lethargy, you know, and um and so when I was burnt out, but I was still working because I was pushing myself right straight through. So you know, and I and I was seeing patients, you know, so I had a lot of I I had I had high obligation, you know, at that time when I got burnt out. And um, you know, and so people, you know, it and it was more of um you got caught up into a conversation as opposed to like paying attention, okay, I've got like eight patients to see in the next like you know, hour and a half, you know, and and timing it out. Um, and so when you when you don't do that or when you having um, you know, or you're eating sugar, you're craving sweets. Like that's a that's that's a that's a big one because you know, they know that, you know, people who have ADD have a tendency to like sugar, you know, and you know, and that's that's written about that it that's white papered about. So you it it's a lot of different like little things. It might not be for one person, it might be, you know, I'm not sleeping at night, I'm waking up at one o'clock in the morning and I'm not going back, you know, and I'm not even turning on my telephone. So I don't have the blue light in my face. Um, you know, and I'm not sleeping while I'm having nightmares. I'm having, you know, I I have, I'm, you know, I I just keep on waking up and you know, I've got a lot of stuff on my mind and my in my plate right now. So, you know, and it's so when you go in, you look okay, you know, but when you actually sit down and you look at what your productivity is, it's like driving some way that you know how to drive. And and I know that this distance from this point to this point takes me 35 minutes. Now it's taking you 45 for no apparent reason. And nothing's and nothing's changed except for the way you're you know you're how you're driving and how you're responding.

Jacquelyn Jackson 10:19

And that makes a lot of sense. I just never really thought of it would be burnout. I'd be like, oh, I'm just bored. Bored it, you know, be especially if you high activity, like you say, you got a lot going on and you bored, that can be a sign of a burnout, do you think that can be starting off with someone?

Dr. Pat Boulogne 10:37

Well, it can because people boredom is, you know, they're like your their lack of interest, you know, and you know, and part of the being, you know, uh burnt out, part of that is also, you know, you know you have to do things, but you just don't have the the wherewithal or the the chutzpah to you know to go engage.

unknown 10:57

Okay.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 10:57

Does that make sense?

Jacquelyn Jackson 10:58

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Stop Chasing Hours Fix Biology

Jacquelyn Jackson 11:00

So what is the biggest gap you see between business owners or what they think they need and what you think they actually need when it comes to the energy, clarity, and recovery?

Dr. Pat Boulogne 11:10

Well, uh, the biggest gap I see is that owners chase more hours than they need for for better biology, you know, and so um they think that, well, if I push harder and I work smarter, then I'm optimizing my calendar, but you're not necessarily doing it. You might look like you're working harder and that you're working smarter, but working smarter doesn't necessarily mean that it's easy. You know, right? And it's just like, and when you can't optimize your calendar, it's just thinking like, well, I have to get in. You know, it's just like you're even um sometimes even late for things that are happening. So, but what they actually need is they need energy optimization, cognitive clarity, and they have to have strategic recovery. So for instance, taking, you know, like um taking the sleep that you need, setting up sleep hygiene for a room that you're sleeping in so that the um temperature is between 65, 68 degrees, somewhere around there is the best optimizing temperature for best sleep. Then also, you know, like having that cognitive clarity has it starts with what you put in your mouth because you're either feeding a disease or you're you're feeding your health. It's not there's not another choice. Um, and then it's a strategic recovery, is looking at like taking naps. You know, before I got on your show today, I took a 15-minute nap.

Jacquelyn Jackson 12:33

Well, wait, wait, hold on, Dr. Pat. You try to tell me I can lay down and take a nap. It works when I need to.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 12:40

I should you don't have to lay down. I mean, unless they have a room for it, but um, you can you know sit back in your chair and close your put D and D stein out, you know, and close your eyes, put some earbuds in and listen to some, you know, peaceful music for about 20 minutes, you know, because you can meditate sitting up, you can meditate laying down, you know, and that can be considered, I consider those like um solution times for that. It's there, they harmonize your hormones, they harmonize your energy. I we used to travel up and down the East Coast, and um, when I got tired, I would just pull into a rest stop and of course lock my doors, and I would put listen to this one tape for 21 minutes. And this one tape for 21 minutes, I selected it because when I do it, it acts as if I had an hour nap, and I've only done it for 21 minutes. And so, you know, and then you know, I'd get back in my car and I could drive. I I stopped, you know, driving tired, you know, and that you know regulates the um the it with your sleep architecture. It's important to have that sleep, it's important to take those naps because it's um increases neuroplasticity, you know, for brain power.

Jacquelyn Jackson 13:53

For blind power with that. And I think I got one that I picked up on that uh the high frequency music, I kind of listened to that. Uh, and that helps me to kind of snap me out of it. So I like I said, that's why I wanted you here because a lot of I had no clue that I needed it, but a lot of business people we work so hard and we don't even think about you know the mental part or the burnout that can happen. So when how do you help executives prevent now or reverse the burnout without forcing them to quit everything or take a sabbatical? How do you do that?

Sleep Hydration And Breath Protocols

Dr. Pat Boulogne 14:28

Well, I can tell people that do some simple changes. And one thing is to um like what I call a power hour protocol. And in that power, it was like, you know, you have to have a screen curfew so that you're not looking at screen or your or your telephone. Most people are not going to get an emergency phone call in the middle of the night. So putting your telephone on, you know, like like auto, you know, like our airplay mode is a really good thing to do if you have to have it on, you know, so that you have an alarm, you know. Also, I just said before, I go the looking at room temperature so that when you are sleeping, you know, and having it as dark as possible. You know, I'm like sensitive. If there's that one light on this TV, if you know, in the room, you know, that little tiny red light, yeah, like I swear to God, I'm have my eyes closed and I know that I can see that light in my mind's eye, you know. And I get out and I put a sock over it, you know, so I don't so I don't have to see it, just cover it cover the thing, you know. And so, you know, and then the other thing, one of the biggest things that we don't do that we should do is um hydrate. And hydration is really important. So that the formulation is 50% of your body weight in ounces. So if someone weighs 100 pounds, they would need to drink 50 ounces of water. The idea is that you want the front load of that um of that hydration before two to four o'clock in the afternoon, right? You know, so that you know that you're not getting up to go to the bathroom for no apparent reason, you know. And what it does is it it decreases brain fog in the afternoon and also any type of energy crash. So if if you're if you think you're hungry, go have a glass of water first. And it's like thirty thirty minutes later, come back, you know, and if you're still hungry, then have something, but have a protein. Have a smart snack. Okay, something like um an you know hard-boiled egg or having um, you know, if you have like um you had you know leftovers from dinner, you know, and there's a high protein in there, like chicken or something like that, and just have a little bit more proteins because that will help pick up your energy and also balances out blood sugar. Because when people have some of those brain fog problems that they're having higher impulse of blood sugar within the body.

Speaker 2 16:44

Right.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 16:45

And then the other thing, the third thing, because I promised you three, um, is uh breathing techniques. So, you know, you can breathe in and hold it for four seconds, and then um excuse me, breathe in on the counter four is like one, two, three, four going in, then you hold it for seven seconds, and then you let it out for eight seconds. And um, and it's important because this recalibrates your nervous system, it enhances your focus and it helps decrease stress.

Jacquelyn Jackson 17:14

Right, with all that. Okay, great. So those are the three that we we should actually kind of look at and doing those. Okay, they give us a deal.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 17:22

So is it something that you can easily do without anybody looking at you like we're weird, you know, like if you're if you work in a large room, you know, so you're aren't sitting there with your hands on the side going, mmm? Right. Well, you could do that too. Maybe everybody would do it in the room if you did it.

Jacquelyn Jackson 17:38

Look, if the whole team needs to do it, we all need to do it. And so yeah, that's what I want to talk to you about. So once we kind of start implementing this stuff, and this just me asking you this, so uh measurable outcomes. I mean, what do we look like uh for decisions, the productivity and spikes? What do your clients typically see uh from working with you the first few months? What do they actually see with you?

Measurable Results And Reassessment

Dr. Pat Boulogne 18:02

Well, you know, understanding the sub-by-cep process is like in when I work with somebody that's approximately, you know, um 12 weeks and on, the first part of it is just assessments to find out where you're at. Because you can't elevate unless you know where you're coming from. You know, and and you have to know, then you have then you can decide how much do I need to do, how much can I do, and then where's the end of the road going for me? Um, and so you're going in the right directions. And you know, and then those situations are customized. So there's an integrative approach. So you're looking at, you know, diet, exercise, sleep, your positive mental attitude, and also posture and function for biomechanics. Um, and then you're recalibrated upon demand. So you keep on reassessing around every like four weeks, like this is the progress we made, this is where we gotta go, this is what we need to pay attention to, where are you having a problem? Because if they tell me where you're having a problem, I've got a solution. Um, and so you're um so when you're looking at the actual outcomes, like what what is it for me on a cognitive piece? Most people that I I work with end up with a 37 uh percent increase in product to um production, you know, and their burnout markers, they start to decrease so that, you know, a lot 50% of them are gone in a very quick period of time, approximately like three to six months, something like that. You know, and it's only a couple hours of improvement to, you know, for you to like invest in so that you can have sustained concentration, you know, and focus. Um if you're looking at health metrics, then you're looking at about a 40 to 60 percent, you know, reduction if you're a business owner in six days, on sick days, um, in how many days off people, their their legal off days above and beyond sick, their sleep improves. You have reduced anxiety and stress reactivity so that when something happens, you just go, okay, so what did I learn from it? Right, great. That's what I learned for move on. You know, it doesn't affect me, it doesn't affect my workload, it doesn't affect my mind, you know, and it doesn't affect my communication. And the business impact of all this is better when you do that, you have better delegation and you have better leaders that are present because the consistent energy is not only felt by that one person, it's community. And when you're in community, community that's where communities in a business raise and they elevate because with one person is healing, everybody's healing, you know, and because you know, ideally you have the support of everybody there. And there's more consistent energy. So you don't, at the end of the day, you're not going, Where's my car? You know, let me get out of here. Um, and you know, and then you have that enhanced resilience, you know, that you know, anything is possible, you know, and you have that um what I always call um peace of mind, like, and I don't let anybody, I don't allow anybody to destroy my peace of mind or even enter it. They don't have any they I don't I don't take reservations for that at all. And that's so that's those things are like the basic impact things that I think are helpful to know.

Jacquelyn Jackson 21:13

Okay. Oh, and I think so too. And now, even if you have to repeat what you say on some stuff because it's really great, it integrates with a lot of the questions we do have.

Three Simple Changes To Start

Jacquelyn Jackson 21:22

But for our listeners who want to focus on stimulators, let's say they want to focus on it next week. What would be your top three sample, simple changes that they need to do? And I think you mentioned some, but if we need to emphasize them, let's emphasize them. What would be the first three you would say they should start doing immediately next week?

Dr. Pat Boulogne 21:40

They should hydrate. That is, you know, and if they don't like to drink water, they can put a straw in the water and drink it because when you drink water out of a glass, sometimes it hits your nose. And psychologically, when it hits your nose, it makes you feel like you're drowning. Not even even though you're no, you're not like in water. Right? But it's just Psych psychologically it it does that. So you're swallowing air so you don't drink enough fluids. And being hydrated is important for brain detox, body detox for all your organs and all your intestinal use. So you have to have that kind a lot a large amount of water, 50% of your body weight in ounces. Um the other thing is that people can do is like, you know, they can look at what time they can decide that I'm gonna go to sleep at 10 o'clock at night. And so that means at 9 30, they start prepping, you know, TV's off, you know. Um it's just like if they have a book or something that they're going to to read or that they want to do self-improvement, it's a good time to do that. It's either right before you go to sleep or before when you just wake up in the morning. And likewise, there's a uh like a countdown. So you can um they always say, like in the meditation type stuff that I do, you can count down from 100, from 50, from 25, or 10. And what you do is you visualize with your eyes closed when you're counting down, each part of your body relaxing. So if everybody closed their eyes right now and you close your eyes, and I told you relax your eyelids, you would actually feel your eyelids go like and just relax, you know. And when you do that, it brings you much more into a centered state. It's called alpha. Um, the other thing, another thing to do is like eat well. If it doesn't have if you can't pronounce anything that's on those packages that you're buying, you should leave it on the count, you should leave it right where you found it. And then because even though it tastes good, there's a lot of chemicals in it. And when you in ingest chemicals, then your body has to work harder to get them out of your system. You know, and when that happens, it's like, you know, people wonder, like, well, you know, the you know, heavy metals that we are are per very persistent in our in our environment now, you know, it's just like it's just like don't eat stuff that you don't understand.

Speaker 2 23:59

Right.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 23:59

You know, and so it's it's like there's you know, like what happened to the simple, you know, scrambled egg. Um it you know, one ingredient, um, and you know, or maybe two if you use a little oil. Um but if you but when it starts to get complicated, you know, there's one thing that um you know, if you look on the the box of like um Pop Tarts, um and it's it's just like there's nothing, there's maybe residue of like if you did raspberry one, I saw a label for this. There's um there might be residue of raspberry in it, but the rest of the list, you there's nothing in there that is like that's not food. I mean, who has that? You know, and when you have the chance to buy organic, buy organic because it's not sprayed with glycophosphates, which are carcinogenic.

Jacquelyn Jackson 24:46

Okay, okay, that's a good idea. So we can start with that, just buying that organic. So let me ask you this as well, because I know you

Client Story Health To Promotion

Jacquelyn Jackson 24:53

work with some. Do you have a story of someone that you've worked with in the past? You know, you don't have to give them their name or anything, but what you saw when you did with them and then what you did after them, do you have anybody you can think of or a situation where you had helped out a business person?

Dr. Pat Boulogne 25:10

I have. Um, I have uh I have more than one, but one person comes to mind because what this person came to me for and what she ended up getting, you know, when we ended up working together, were two different things. So for instance, you know, when we first started out, she just wanted to eat better. She wanted to have a better lifestyle, you know. So, you know, when I didn't know what the heck I was doing when I was coaching, you know, even though I coached for 38 years in my office, you know, with patients, you know, I wanted to have it more structured. And you're on Zoom, so it's a little bit harder to see and you know, and you know what what you're doing. So anyway, and this person, she we were talking, and um, you know, she started to uh do things that each week. I'd give her one thing to do, you know, we would talk about a bunch of stuff out of this which what do you feel like you need to implement the most? So we would figure out a plan of how to implement you know what we what we talked about, whether it was taking a bicycle ride, whether it was getting some it some equipment or whether it's uh drinking water. Um, and then you know, one day, you know, we're going along and she said um to me, and this is interesting, and she said, I would like she had a personal request and she was trying to, she was living um in another state from her husband. And so she was trying to get him to come out there or move or come out more frequently, and she she told me something that she did, and and she and this is especially for women, and so she wrote him a letter, you know, and I said to her, Great. And I said, I go read me the first five lines of it. And she did. Now, this person was a senior executive in her industry and sp in uh neurosci neurospace science, something like that. And um, I said to her, she's never gonna read it. And she and and it's I she didn't even make it to the third sentence. And so I helped her recraft how to communicate, which was interesting because that one thing that we did of how to posture yourself, like what do you say in those instances, and what do you do for this, and what do you do for that? How can I elevate my communication? How can I show up better? You know, um, because five pages is not the way to show up, you know, if you're trying to get somebody to move someplace, you know, and and but it it trickled over into her work. So we started talking about her work, you know, our whole mindset of resilience, resourcefulness shifted over in that regard. So we started crafting like responses. So, like, if someone says this to you, what do you say? Like, you know, on a base thing. And um, she ended up getting, you know, a big promotion because I helped her with the presentation of like, you know, sit it up this way, say this first, you know. Um, and I said, So you got to, like, here's the hook for it, you know, and I and it was just something that I've always found like uh for communication and business, you know, I had a staff of eight when I have my chiropractic practice, you know, and I was very well known in the community. I mean, I couldn't go buy a piece of fish without it taking me an hour and a half. And so, um, and so I had to like start thinking, like, oh, when I go in there, it's like how many days okay, three days. Oh, I'll have fish three days in a row. And but people always say, What are you eating, Dr. Pat? You know, and so it was it was easy to be that leader in that scenario and just say, What are you eating? They're going, I don't think you should look. Um and so that, but I go, but you want to think better, you've got to eat better.

Speaker 2 28:45

Right.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 28:46

You know, and you gotta say, like, where in where is things lacking? So it's just like in the communication part of it, it's just like, how do I say this better? Like, how do I communicate it? Because people only learn three ways. They're either an auditory learner, they're a visual learner, or they're a feeling learner. Those are your choices. So if you know how to craft a con craft a message, you know, because that's how someone goes like, how do you get people to buy the right food? And I said, I find out whether or not an auditory learner, you know, a feeling learner. And and then I talk to them in their language so that so that they get it and they get the importance of that. But at any rate, she got her wish, you know, and you know, um, and so that was, you know, and she started to have better uh relations at work, you know, she because she said that there was things that were undertone and she just couldn't figure out what it was that you know was going on, you know, and I just think we lose touch with our ability to be human. Right, you know, and when you have that touch, then it's like easier to, you know, make that. But sometimes we need help to get from one point to the other point, you know. So and then and that was not something that what she said to me, she goes, I didn't expect this from working with you, but this has been so beneficial. And she goes, I'm so much healthier. And you know, and she lost 15 pounds when she was working with me. Um, it wasn't the original goal, she goes, she wasn't out to lose weight, but she was out to eat better and have you know, and and be more active about the things that she was doing. Because I think we have a tendency that if things it we we sit and we think about it, and the next thing you know, it's the next day.

Jacquelyn Jackson 30:20

Right, right. Exactly. So my thing is, you know, because listening to what you're saying, which sounds really good. So for our listeners, they're be interested. So I'm a business person, I work all the time, I got my company, got three companies I'm running. What would the schedule look like working with you? I mean, how do you deal with us as business owners? Do we do weekly with you or how is it set up?

Dr. Pat Boulogne 30:42

So how business owners work with me is they do usually work with me weekly, sometimes it's three three times a month. It depends upon how complex how you know, because some some industries are very are easier than others. Other people, and it depends upon how complex somebody's needs are also. So, you know, if somebody has complex needs, I always feel like they deserve to have better babysitting, you know, and because they're not your DIY person, you know, and um, and then you have like the next part of it, because like you know, when I want to do a diet, I want to say, just tell me what to eat, you know, and I'll go buy the food and I'll make it as you know, but I just need to know, I just need to know what the bottom line is to give give me, put me at the end, you know, and I'll tell you how to start from the beginning. You know, I just need to know what the end looks like for you, you know, and so then you put those those pieces of the puzzle together like that, you know, and when you do, you know, then you can make better decisions about how to move forward. You'll re reach your goals in uh less time, you know, and you'll be able to have better relationships, your career will improve, you know, and your and all aspects of your life will improve.

Jacquelyn Jackson 31:50

Right, they're to

Coaching Versus Therapy For Work

Jacquelyn Jackson 31:51

do it. Now, I do have a question, hopefully you can answer that came in. Um, they have asked, working with you, how different or how same it is to go to see a psychiatrist. I'm not a psychiatrist, I'm not a psychiatrist, I'm better.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 32:07

So I was I was being facetious. Um, I said, I'm not a psychiatrist, I'm better. Um, and sometimes people tell me sometimes people tell me that because I have uh I've been blessed with a lot of common sense.

Speaker 2 32:18

Okay.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 32:18

And one of the ways I use my common sense is I look at what people have got going on and saying like how convoluted it is, it's just like, what's the most what what's really going on here? Here's the story, but what's the bottom line? And then you have to take a look at when you're looking at what's the story, you have to go like, okay, so what's the most important thing for you to do now? Because sometimes when we are in that quandary, we don't we get stuck and we get we freeze. And we don't move, you know, we we we're just sit, stand there or sit there, and we kind of watch things go by and it's a waste of your precious life, you know. And so if you had the opportunity to like, you know, put things a little bit better in order, and so it's like what's the you know most important thing for me to do? You know, you have to have a robust health and you have to have, you know, a resilient mindset, you know, if you're gonna be in the business space. You have to, it's mandatory, you know, and you know, even you know, uh Russell Bronson, you know, um I heard Vishon, the guy who in the you know Mine Valley talk about one time that he was at his place in Nevis and the Caribbean, and um so uh at dinner, you know, uh Bronson says, Hey, who wants to go for a swim tomorrow morning? You know, and everyone says, Yes, yes. And so, you know, uh Vishon said, Yeah, sure. He's thinking, I hate swimming. So, you know, and what this thing was, because it this is how this is a guy who's like maybe like in his like sixties at the time, I think the story happened. And um, and so what the swim was swimming from his private island over to the other island, you know, to have breakfast, you know, and and so people who didn't make there was a boat to pull people out for the people who were he had a difficult time, but they all went along for it, you know, and uh he never said if he got pulled out of the water for it. But the thing is, like it's your it's your mindset. It's like, you know, can I do that? Right, you know, can do I see myself ever doing that? If the if the answer is yes, then you can do it. You just have to stage it out and you have to create those solutions for that, you know, so that they're safer, they're quicker, and they're simpler. So you get to your goals and the loves of your life, you know, you know, faster, you know, and with with good peace and good pace, you know, and the energy that you deserve. So you're not, you know, at the end of the day, you're not going, I can't talk to anybody, I gotta go to my bedroom. You know, I'm I'm done today. Um, you know, so you get so you withstand that better. Does that make sense?

Jacquelyn Jackson 34:52

Yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I can actually see how that how that works together. And that's what I think too, with you, uh, because when you do, we talk with, and I know because I have a therapist, I have no problem telling about they know they everybody knows I got one, that you are more like they don't go into my business and help me organize my business. I think not that you help me organize, but you'll help my thought process of what stops me, you know, for it's working and being an entrepreneur. And I can see the advantage of having you a part of what we do is is as uh executives and as managers, because there's so much stress that's going on now, and we have that therapy, but you don't have that therapy for work. Somebody can kind of talk you through it. Well uh go ahead, what you have to say?

Trauma Patterns And Emotional Reset

Dr. Pat Boulogne 35:36

So there's a um a technique I learned from a doctor a long time ago, and what it does is it takes the edge off your um traumas in your life. So, like if you go if you grew up and always heard your mother and father argue about money, you know, you're gonna come up with a certain blueprint in your brain about what money looks like, you know. And some of those people, I you know, I had a client who kept on, you know, go get a great job, and then like eight months later or nine months later would blow it, you know, and then it would start doing things to sabotage their own success. So I said to you know, I said to him, I said, So what happened when you were young? And um he's you know, it you know, with your parents, and you know, and he's I had an idea like, you know, like life, blah, blah, blah. I said, Great. You know, um, but I said, You keep every this is like your third job in two years. You know, and I said, What's up? Um, and you know, it came that, you know, his parents had these big arguments about money, and that, you know, and it also made him feel like you know, he wasn't worthy because they never had money because they argued about it all the time.

Speaker 2 36:36

Right.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 36:37

And so every time he started making money, you know, he'd hit the ceiling, you know, and then you know, faltered to the ground and have to pick himself up and do it all over again because that's the way that people who have money work, right? Or don't have money work, they have to like really struggle for it.

Speaker 2 36:53

Wow.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 36:53

You know, and and it's those preconceived, you know, like the things that happen, but we bury those emotions in our bodies. So wouldn't it be nice to know what those are so that you can take the edge of them off, you know, so they're no longer like settling in, you know, your weakest organ system. You know, in my book, Why Are You Sick, Fat, and Tired, it tells you what your weakest organ systems are. Um, it is, you know, it tells you where, you know, it gives you uh greater awareness about your health and also helps you, besides that, you know, look at like, how does this relate to this? What's my health pattern going on? You know, and you can take that. I always tell people take it on New Year's Day, you know, because you know, then you could set up an actual goal for your your New Year's resolutions that are, you know, that you can support and that are attainable. And you know, it's it's that piece that you know helps people have that breakthrough. You know, I had um I've done that technique with like hundreds and thousands of people. Um and the cool thing for me is looking when I'm talking to somebody and we're going through this process that all of a sudden the look of calm on their face is like amazing. It's beautiful. And you know, whether it cause sometimes some of it like worked with the woman who was um, she was um she was not raped, but she was molested. And so, but she forgot it. You know, and so it's just like she buried it. She would happen to her when she was young, and she knew something was off, you know. And so the the day that I was working with her, um, like she literally was off my table in my office, literally in a New York nanosecond, you know, and there was a sequence of things happened. For instance, on that day, there's a dog barking right below the window, you know. I was doing some point therapy things to get her neck relaxed, to see what was going on, and to get her breathing so that her cerebral spinal fluid would float up and down the spine easily. Those three things with my hand in one place and the other place and the dog barking, she was like off that table in the nanosecond. I went, What's the matter? And she said, No, no, it's just like it's a dog, we gotta get rid of the dog, you know, and she was just flipped out. And um, I said to her, Okay, and I opened, I said, a back door and I looked at this dog and I said, Look at I said, We have to have a conversation, you gotta stop barking. This lady's not this is not gonna work, you know. And I said, So laid down. And the dog just looked at me and laid down, I closed the door, and the dog didn't bark again. I mean, it's just like I sometimes think that they understand better than not, you know. And then when I finished working with her, you know, I just said, you know, she left, and um, you know, and it's just like, and I never saw her again. She only came in for that purpose. And um, but I saw her husband who came in one day, and she he just said to me, Thank you for giving me my wife back. And when I looked at him, I said, because my the girl at the front desk goes, Oh, Dr. Pat, your boyfriend's here with flowers for you. And I said, I don't have a boyfriend. I said, Who is it? And um she said, Oh, this guy's here, he's with flowers, he's asking for you by your by your by your first name and not Dr. Pat. So I figured that he knows you. I said, You're so nosy. Um and so and I walked out there and I said, Hi, I go, I don't see I don't know you, but and I said, I understand you have some flowers for me, you know. And she he said, You know, you treated my w wife, you know, for an emotional thing. I I don't know exactly what you said what you call it. And he said, But you know, the difference in her is night and day. I've been wanting to do this for a while, you know, and so he goes, Thank you. And he gave me a big hug. Everyone cried. And wow, you know, and I said, I and I said, Why did you bring these flowers home for her? He goes, Oh no, she already got her flowers. And she goes, If I bring her flowers and she knows I was here, she'd kill me. And so I was at Mum's the word, we won't we we won't talk about it, you know. And but I had you know instances with like that with even kids who they're autistic, doing that same technique, you know. And although they sometimes had a hard time verbalized, verbalizing the points to relax the spine and relax the brain, you know, that were they're really it's there, it's very, very touching. Um, and you know, because you don't know, you know, I always looked at you never know whose life you're gonna change in those instances. And we bring all those things from childhood with us into being adult. We do, we do, you know, and the guy who taught me that technique, I mean, even you know, he told me one time that I was abandoned, and I went, I don't think so. My parents were married, you know, like because he gave me an age and I called my mother up. And when I called my mother up, and I said, What happened to me when I was two years old? She goes, Oh, you were um, and she said, You had pneumonia, we put you in hospital, you know. And I said, Did you come visit me? No, you couldn't, because you were in a you know in a contained ward. And she's I said, How long was I there? And she said, like two or three weeks, something like that. I said, No wonder I felt abandoned. And but those things, but those things, because you don't understand them, you know, stay with you because you don't have the wherewithal to be able to understand and to make sense of them. You know, when I got you know, when we discovered that and I got treated for that, I've just like I am so happy to be by myself. I can't tell you. But it it was, you know, but it was an amazing thing. So it was just one of those things that you'd like you wouldn't think of putting that together. Like, why would that be? But people have those things and they interfere with how they function in their career, their relationships, you know, in every aspect of their life. They're going, like, why is there always a black cloud over me? You know, and and you have to, you know, yeah, and taking a look at what that is, you know, and looking for the source and not a band-aid, you know, can help change someone's life significantly. And that's my hope for people is they live their best life.

Jacquelyn Jackson 42:46

They live. I know. So let's do this, and thank you so much for that.

Book And How To Connect

Jacquelyn Jackson 42:50

That was a great story. But let's talk about your book. If you don't mind, talk about your book, tell us where we can go get it and all that right quick, okay?

Dr. Pat Boulogne 42:56

All right. I will. My book is called Why Are You Sick, Fat, and Tired. It shows you where your you know main um weaknesses are at, and it shows you where your strengths are at. It's a book of questions, and that book of questions will lead you down the road of where to start your health journey. And it will tell you um, you know, where to spend your time, your energy, and your resources, and it covers all your organ systems. It's in um on Amazon, um, is a good place to grab it. The latest edition is all red letters. Um and um and they're simple questions, you know, so there's there's a lot of qu there's a lot of questions, but they don't take forever to do. And then you have an opportunity after you take that um that survey, that assessment, you know, to make time with me, and then I will show you exactly how what how your health is patterning out at a given time.

Jacquelyn Jackson 43:50

Okay, great. So now where do we get it? Tell us where we can get the book now.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 43:54

Amazon, you know, and it's called Why Are You Sick, Fat, and Tired, and you would Use my name Dr. Pat Boulone, although I don't have it on the screen today, but we'll be in the show notes, I presume. And so the um and that's how you know that's how to find it. You can also go to my website, you know, if you want to connect with me straight away. And that is health teamnetwork.com. You know, and I am rebranding this year to because I want to expand my reach. Um and uh my uh we'll be brand rebranding eventually from Health Team Network into you know Elviri, you know, it says like means elevate in Italian, Elevate Advisory Group. Um, because there's we have a lot of resources uh to be able to, you know, like what's what's going on with you? Let's figure out the best way. Sometimes people only need to see me for a month. Other times people, I work with them for two or three years sometimes, you know, going back and like being an advisor on a board or that type of thing for their businesses.

Jacquelyn Jackson 44:56

Okay, so we have and we'll have we're gonna have you uh like I told Dr. Pet, she's gonna be on a referral page. So definitely we would have information because you guys, a lot of people follow us and everything now. So uh www.tdj equitylc.net is where you'll see on the referral. So we'll definitely have you there, which will link back to you where people can make some appointments with you. So let's say this before we leave. How do people get started with you?

Dr. Pat Boulogne 45:24

They go to my website or you you have the calendar link, you know, and you schedule time with me. That's the best way to do it, you know. You know, and then we can talk about what your needs are, what your like what your hopes and dreams and your goals are, and then we can decide like this is like you know, this is what to do next. If I'm not a fit for you, and I can I and I know someone else who's a better fit for you, because I always have done that in my whole career of treating patients and also clients, then I can refer you to an appropriate source, you know, somebody who I would go to myself. And I never ever ever do tell somebody to do something I wouldn't do myself. That's a you know, just so that that I I just don't do that. I don't I I can't tell you to like, oh, take that, you know, supplement. If I haven't taken it, I don't tell you to take it.

Jacquelyn Jackson 46:10

Which is great. And I just know you're you're a great refor resource for this, and that's why we want the business owners to know that you're available. A lot of us don't even know these services are available for us, we just don't. You know, we we we get like I said, we're working in our business, not on our business. That's why we try to bring people in like you so they can understand that. Now, before we go, I wanted you, and I told you I wanted you to to talk a little bit about your 360.

What The 360 Program Includes

Jacquelyn Jackson 46:34

I know you mentioned a little bit about it, but let's talk about the 360 method as well, because I want them to reach out to you for that as well, if you don't mind.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 46:42

The 360 methods um starts, it's my bigger program. And and my bigger program, um, you know, it it's also paired, also. I can I make it sometimes like instead of three months, two months, or but usually it's a 12-week program. And you do things like, you know, what do you do? It's just like how do it's like if you're in business, you always have to look well. So part of that 360 program are facial exercises that take you less than 15 minutes a day to do, and you can take years off your face, you can get rid of a turkey neck, you can like bring up your jawline, you know, um, and you can look sharp every day that you have to exist, you know, and or if you go out just to do it for yourself. There's also I I go I deep dive into nutrition. Um, there's a um a hair analysis or blood analysis because I'm looking to see what foods are you might be so sensitive to that you should never ever put in your mouth. You know, so I look at like what's a good diet plan, how you go from point A to point C from that. Um I look at exercise and it's just like what kind of motion? Because we all have different body types, you know. It's just like I can remember seeing this guy limping at the um Boston Marathon at the expo, and I jokingly said to him, with put putting my foot in the mouth, you're not running the marathon, right? You know, and he said, Oh yes, I am, you know, and I just like good for you. So I go, I I can't believe I just said that to this guy, you know, and because I didn't want to put jinx him, you know, and when he said that because I wanted to still send that good energy to him, you know. And so you gotta take a look at what's the best exercise based upon your body, you know, and about what you have the capacity to do and based upon your body, you know, there's you know, there's is do you do the one a day rule or what is it, you know, that in order to get that? Because in order, you have to move, because if you don't move, you're gonna die. That's the bottom line. And then the sleep portion of it, I've I've taught sleep summits for years. I include that also because that is, you know, it's like if you can get a good night's sleep, you can take five years off you know, your face in the morning. We all know when we don't get enough sleep, you look in the mirror, you're going, Oh my god, I can't go outside. Um, and it's it's like and you're thinking, could I look this bad? It's just it's gotta be something wrong with the mirror. You know, and you know, and it's it's just because you know like there's mirrors like when you go into like you know, to go dry clothes on, you know, they all have the skinny mirrors on there because they want you to look five pounds less. Like it's just like I like those if I'm gonna look in the mirror, period. And so it's those are important. And then there's, you know, and and then there's the you know, the the mindset portion of in positive mental attitude. If people aren't positive, there's a lot of people who think they're positive and they are so negative that people go like, okay, I'll you know, like you ever have a friend go, I gotta go right now, and they would hang up on you on the telephone. You know, it's just you have to think like, what was I talking about just before then, you know, before they got there? And because it was there an energy shift, you know, that kind of thing. So you have to know what that positive mental attitude is because you can change your life like that when you start your mornings off. Like, what is it? What's what's the you know, the ritual that gets me in that motion? You know, and and then there's you know, um, other tests, you know, that, you know, assessments that I do uh during that time with somebody to like, you know, look at what's going on environmentally. Is there, you know, if I'm doing strategic things with them, you know, for a business, it's like, you know, like what's the best way to posture this program? I want to put a program in for you know corporate wellness or for health. What's the best way for me to do that so that we're not, you know, like breaking the bake here, but people get something that helps support them. Because when people get those things, people don't need another TV and they don't need another computer. They need to know that you care enough about them that you want them to be as healthy as possible because then that's when you start having those less than, you know, how many like sick days people are, you know, and where they're at with that. You know, so that's just to like to name some of the things in there. Sometimes we go off like at a deep end on some of those. And it's just like we end up going, and Dr. Pat, do you know anything about, you know, and if I don't, I will find out, you know, and I bring that back to the table with solution, like what are we trying to do? Like, you know, I had someone call me up at nine o'clock at night. I want to go to Europe next week. What time do I have to leave here so I don't get jet like? I said a real question. Can I charge you for that? Um, and you know, and I go, where are you? You know, and so I gave them a plan to do that. You know, I just said, you know, if you're you know, can fly out of Chicago, the last flight out is at 11 o'clock. Because I've done it, you know, and I said, then you arrive at a a real time in the morning when you normally would be getting up anyway. And and so you you might not sleep as well if depending upon where you're at on the plane. Um, but you know, it's just like, you know, there, you know, my uh I have a variety of bandwidth, you know, um for you know, helping people, doctors who are in need, who need consulting in their office and their ROIs are down. And I I just worked in an office this last year and increased their ROI by 45%, you know, just creating new systems or systems that actually work, you know, and getting rid of rift raft and and things that you like they really didn't need anymore. And but they felt like they were connected to it. It's like, not anymore, put it in the garbage. It's like, you know, you don't need that in that. So, you know, I have you know a lot of different skill sets in that. But the 360 method is like, you know, takes you from you know, ground zero, you know, or with whatever you got going on, and it keeps something like what do we got that's good for us, but you first got to find out how you're feeding yourself, you know. And it's like because you really have to, if you can't nurture yourself, you can't nurture somebody else, and you can't give your best.

Jacquelyn Jackson 52:38

And that is so true. Oh my gosh, thank you so

Where To Find Dr Pat

Jacquelyn Jackson 52:41

much. Uh, Dr. Pat, what you've given us today was really good and some enlighten to some things that we hadn't thought about, but that's what we try to bring to everyone. So again, you have if you don't mind, tell them your website because I want them to have that, because it is on a podcast too, okay? So let's see what's your website we can go to.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 52:58

My website is healthteametwork.com. You know, and there are videos, there's a lot of ways to interact on that. There's a way to reach out to me on the um website. Um, you get to find a plethora of information about me. Um, you can go to LinkedIn, you know, is how we met, and um find out from my by my profile is pretty extensive on LinkedIn. And um I have I have a good following um from on LinkedIn that I've accumulated through like the 10 years that I've been there. Um and then the other place, you know, is um, you know, I'm I'm on Facebook, but I wouldn't say I would say my best two best places are my website and LinkedIn for finding me.

Jacquelyn Jackson 53:42

To get you. Okay, good. All right. Well, we want to thank you again for taking time out your busy day to come and sit and talk to us. That's the first thing. Thank you so much for being here.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 53:53

You're welcome. I'm happy to be here. And anytime, you know, you need a stand-in, I'd be very happy to do that. You know, I love help. I love I love seeing people do well, you know. Nothing gives me more pleasure, you know, than seeing people elevate.

Jacquelyn Jackson 54:08

Right. And that's that's how we are. That's what our whole team is like that. So definitely you're a guest that we would definitely consider come back in, especially certain topics that I know we get feedback behind this. So we'll let you know what's going on and definitely make you a part of the family to kind of help us with working with our clients as well. So we want to thank everybody for being here today. We appreciate you. You all can go to our YouTube channel, TDJ Equity Funded Insiders, to see this episode as well as other episodes that we have. Stay in touch with us through LinkedIn, like Dr. Pat, we're on LinkedIn as well. Stay in touch with us that way, as well as stay in touch with us, period, on our website, www.tdj equity lc. Again, thank you all for attending. You all take care and have a great day. Bye-bye.

Dr. Pat Boulogne 55:00

Hey, thank you.

Final Thanks And Listener CTA

Speaker 55:04

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